Share. On Star Wars, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Who would win? If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. The strongest leads. Kylo isn't beating anyone of note, his only duel showing was terrible so he's tough to gauge. Round 2: Han's a nonfactor, and Qui-Gon's already lost to Maul before. Kylo Ren tore down a Jedi temple using just the force, fought and beat 3 of Luke’s best students using Just the force even though at this point Luke had way more knowledge of the force learning from Lor San Tekka. Dooku could solo, Maul is overkill. Of course, he was heavily injured and emotionally troubled, blah blah blah, we've all read this argument before. You are indeed where you belong. You can't just say that since he hasn't done it on screen, a force user wouldn't be able to stop a force power. Ok, here we go! Maul 9/10, Round 3: If Kylo is the strongest of the Knights of ren then i think Maul and Dooku take this as well. His fighting technique is sloppy even thought his Force powers are decent. Now let's talk about that blaster feat. The battle between the two users on the dark side that never reached their full potential. That being said, since we've got nothing else to go by, we can't assume that he's an extremely talented duelist, since there's just nothing to support the idea. There have also been leaks describing Kylo Ren having a vision of Darth Vader and Anakin caught in a moment between the two incarnations. Thus, we have a man who will almost certainly kill Kylo Ren one on one, and a man who is more skilled than the former, against Kylo Ren and six of his (likely less skilled) comrades. Maul 10/10. Kylo lost to Rey who had never even used a lightsaber. One of the things Kylo Ren lacks that Qui-Gon Jinn possessed was a mastery over his emotions. Yeah I know he was hit by a bolt from Chewbacca before the fight with Rey and Finn (which is pretty much the only source of his combat feats as of now,) AND I'm aware that it was able to knock stormtroopers off their feet, but he hasn't really demonstrated much prowess with a lightsaber anyway. Of course, The Rise of Skywalker would also include another iconic Sith in the form of Palpatine. So he did separate and eliminate them which I'm assuming he planned, because he most likely realized he couldn't win 2v1. Kylo Ren stopped Poes blaster bolt mid air, so he clearly needs a speed increase. So in that sense, this feat is kinda iffy when you're talking about using it to demonstrate his power. But the point stands as far as feats go, defensively he can survive multiple opponents however this does not mean he can defeat them. In addition to commanding the Troops of the First Order, Kylo Ren is also a member of the Knights of Ren: … He was incredibly wounded (shot by a weapon that not only 1 hit killed people throughout the entire film, but also sent them flying away. Here's what we know about the Knights of Ren: They are involved in the deaths of Luke's students, and Kylo Ren is the "master of the Knights of Ren". That said, he's not that much of a Force wielder in battle. Kylo Ren is a young but powerful Force User who was introduced in "Star Wars: The Force Awakens". Thus, it's likely that, even if "master of the Knights of Ren" refers to a position of command and in no way refers to skill, that Kylo only came to this position, or only holds it, through power. Their chance is for Kylo to throw Maul off balance with large strikes or the force allowing Qui-Gon to take out Maul. Savage Opress VS Kylo Ren is a What-If? Solo's contribution here is debatable. Kylo Ren and Darth Maul. With the threat of Maul splitting his attention from Han, Han might actually be able to hit Kylo. No Force oriented abilities except for utility purposes such as retrieving lightsabers. Dooku was considered one the top duelists in the Jedi order before he left and Maul is probably very close to his skills. User Info: KyleKG. That's all speculation. It could just be the case that we haven't seen it done in previous content, or that nobody thought to do it, but they actually could if they wanted. Kylo Ren undoubtedly looks awesome on screen, but he could also easily pass as a random alien knight with a mask. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! An enclave of masked warriors, the Knights of Ren served the will of a leader, referred to as master or boss, who had sole authority over them. 0. Maul is superior to Ahsoka (while holding back, because he's trying to look feeble and weak), so he's logically close to Vader. Contrast this with Maul, who has been trained by Sidious for a very long time, and is able to fight a Jedi Master and a highly skilled Padawan, at once, in a duel that resulted in the death of one and nearly the death of the other. Who wins and why? Assuming Ren's stasis would work on full strength maul kind of shits on all the lore. The Dark Acolyte … I don't see this happening, either because Ren would never really do it and because he's never used it against a trained force user, but it is a possibility, so I'll give Ren that 1/10. It's pretty cool that he could stop a fast moving projectile midair with relative ease. KyleKG 3 years ago #21. Lightsabers and Blasters Only. From the limited amount we see Kylo fight, it doesn't appear that he has specialized training in these forms (he might be using VII which looks like Mace Windu, but I am not sure of this). The only part of this I don't agree with is Maul didn't nearly defeat two Jedi 2v1, the only reason he was able to kill Quigon was because Obi-Wan got separated. Rise of Skywalker Kylo Ren. This. Darth Vader easily broke into Leia's mind). Who Would Win? Whilst they were wearing armour.) Both Darth Vader and Kylo Ren have impressive outfits, although Darth Vader's look certainly takes the cake. Round 3: Ren gets 6 guys who are almost certainly less skilled than he is, while Maul gets the help of another seasoned lightsaber duelist who's arguably better. And keep in mind that he's actually great with a lightsaber, being able to handle Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon at once (probably would've won if he wasn't being cocky after knocking down Obi-Wan.) In The Clone Wars (newer show) he was shown to be alive after having his lower half cut off by Obi-Wan, which is pretty damn hardcore. and he lost a force duel with Rae in the chair when she has never used it before. Stuwart. Other than that, Kylo has only taken part in one duel with another Force sensitive so far and he got shat on. "Nobody else has done it" isn't the same as "Nobody else can do it". Filoni just said he would've died. Definitely Kylo. Round 3: If Kylo is the strongest of the Knights of ren then i think Maul … Like Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Count Dooku, Boba Fett and many, many more. The entire idea that there's a big gap between Ahsoka and Maul in the form of this "serious Maul > holding back Maul who's pretending to look feeble > Ahsoka" argument completely self destructs because Maul had a 2 minute fight with Ahsoka, and during that fight he is furious and frustrated with Ahsoka for getting in his way, and yet their fight resulted in a stalemate, not that I think Maul would've lost had the fight continued, but it's illogical for Maul to deliberately waste time holding back his strength in his fight with Ahsoka because he is clearly hell bent to get to the Sith holocron, corrupt Ezra into becoming his apprentice, exact revenge on. Everything else that he's done has been done multiple times by other characters across all the movies and material, and most of those times they accomplished those feats to a higher degree than he did in the movie (e.g. Thus, it can be assumed that Kylo Ren is the most powerful or most skilled of the Knights of Ren. And rather than focusing on Maul, the main antagonist of the trilogy was Adam Driver's Kylo Ren. 5:28. Star Wars A Galaxy Far, Far Away Stage Show - with Darth Vader, Kylo Ren, and Darth Maul (Andersonwarwick25. Maul was pretending to be weak and feeble when he met Ezra so that he can gain his trust because Ezra a child, Maul dropped the act when Ezra re-introduced Maul to Kanan and Ahsoka, who evidently weren't naive enough to fall for Maul's self victimisation act. Ren from freezing rey in their fight? Kylo Ren is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise. Both are extremely slow and weak. This is a Force only battle - no other weaponry involved. 5:15. Even if Han isn't part of the equation, Maul has taken on Qui-gon and another duelist with much, much better combat feats before at the same time and nearly came out on top, so changing Qui-gon's partner to someone like Kylo, who has many, many less impressive combat feats, and you've got a win for Maul/Han. I doubt that team will work together as well as the original, and neither can win on their own. Given that Snoke referred to Kylo in this capacity when speaking of how difficult a trial he would face, I'm inclined to believe that it refers to skill. DEATH BATTLE featuring Savage Opress andKylo Renfrom the Movie Series Star Wars. Additionally, Kenobi is of the Light Side and Maul is of the Dark side, much like Rey and Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren has no applicable combat feats.So the real answer is we have no clue, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Team 1 wins, but the atmosphere is ruined by the inappropriate usage of Duel of Fates (it's more of a lolstomp than an epic battle.). Larger-scale feats before his prime and ragdolling multiple Jedi at once (granted, Luke's students don't appear to have been the most powerful of Jedi) should put him well above Maul's level. and emotionally unbalanced (he just killed his dad). Kylo Ren and Darth Vader are two of the most powerful villains in the Star Wars universe, but who would win in a fight? Kylo's only advantage is freezing Maul with the force and that could be hard to pull off, nigh impossible mid fight. Of course, what is more likely is that Maul, having shown considerably acrobatic abilities augmented with the force, flips over the Knights' heads, lands on the other side, and the two Sith cut through the Knights from each end. Spoof and original music created by F.Sudol, thanks for watching. Making this on a isolated path prevents the Knights from flanking the two sith and Dooku would take them out easily (I would imagine) even if they could. The combatants are Darth Maul as he was pre-slicing and Kylo Ren in peak condition. Dooku thrashed Anakin and Obi-wan, at the same time, and stood toe-to-toe with Yodu, which is arguably a greater feat. He was going to die... with no context whatsoever. He can't even beat someone who picked up a lightsaber for the first time. Re: Kylo Ren vs Darth Maul - Force Battle. R3) As said before Maul will stop Kylo in most scenarios. That argument has no basis in fact, nor reality. R1) Peak Maul is a much better fighter than Kylo when it comes to bladework, footwork, or mobility. 10/10. Maul would destroy him, Maul is a sith... Ren is a pussy who got his ass handed to him by 2 people who never held lightsabers. With only the one canon example, it's not a sure thing that a dyad would always be composed of a Light Side and a Dark Side, but with the prequel films making the necessity of balance in the Force a central theme, it's a compelling assumption. Now, Maul is being joined by a man who is likely, at least as far as the movies are concerned, a much better combatant than he himself is. Though he supposedly died on Naboo at the hands of Obi-Wan Kenobi, he resurfaced years later, having survived through his sheer hatred. With Powerful Connections to the Force and taught by Powerful Wielders of the Dark Side, Which of these two Dark Apprentices shall be victorious?! Yeah, we've all heard the arguments about how Chewie's shot really incapped him for the fight, and how he wasn't intent on killing Rey. The Sith were a particular line of Dark Jedi which have brought in other sources of knowledge of the Dark Side of the Force into their collective understanding of the Force. Darth Vader has a major presence in the latest look at Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.It's no secret that Kylo Ren is a big fan of his grandfather. This series of singular duels isn't going to work in the Knights' favor. From what we know, Kylo lost to an untrained Force sensitive. Honestly I think Ren will be surprised and taken off guard by just the pure hatred of Maul. Would you like to react to this message? Jedi create their lightsabers as a later part of their training, but Ren's lightsaber is specifically something crude and almost homemade, which implies that it was not created as part of his Jedi training but rather done on his own. - Page 5. lets start! 1 Introduction 2 Darth Maul 3 Kylo Ren 4 Intermission 5 DEATH BATTLE! Stop spouting this. By Shaun Kitchener PUBLISHED: 08:50, Tue, Jun 11, 2019 Maul 9/10. Maul took on two jedi by himself and nearly won. May 23, 2016 4:55AM edited May 2016. One is the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the other of Snoke. Maul 9/10. Darth Maul vs Kylo Ren Spoof. 6 Conclusion Wiz: Star Wars is a very popular series of movies and has lots of great heroes...and Villians. Thus, we're left with minimal combat feats for him, no real combat feats at his peak, and a lack of finished training that doesn't exactly give the impression that he would be too skilled. But some of the more "Newer" ones are very popular as well. Round 3: Darth Maul backed by Count Dooku vs Kylo Ren and 6 Knights of Ren. The Battle will be fought over a seemingly bottomless pit on a long walkway with the Duel of Fates playing in the background. Dooku just step up front and blasts all 7 of the opponents with lightning in rapis succession. Round 3. The Knights of Ren would likely be trained in a more generalized fighting style, taking into account blaster fire etc. A NEW Star Wars fan theory suggests a slightly complicated dynamic between Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. Ren's training with Luke was, as far as we can tell, not finished. Please comment and subscribe if you want to see more. About Round 2 - Blocking blaster bolts with a lightsaber in a combat situation requires quite a bit of training and a specific form (III or V, which look like Obi Wan and Vader respectively). Poll Clone Wars Darth Maul vs TROS Kylo Ren (97 votes) Maul: a former dark lord of the Sith 73% . Maul, the Dathomirian Zabrak male who would become the feared Darth Maul, was born on Dathomir to Kycina, a Human Nightsister of Mother Talzin's coven and a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception. Discussion board for Star Wars versus matchups and related topics. Comment. By Thomas West Aug 31, 2020. Kylo Ren vs. Darth Maul? Last week, some artwork that was supposedly from Colin Trevorrow's first version of the movie found its way online. Maul 10/10, Round 2: Even if Kylo killed Han right at the start of the battle, that means that its Kylo and Qui-gon vs Maul. BUT the thing is we don't know if this is really a feat at all because the only thing that makes it stand out is that nobody else has done it. Maul already beat Qui-gon with better backup in Obi-wan, so i think Maul wins this round as well. Even if it doesn't explicitly refer to skill, the Sith, who the knights presumably are emulating, are an organization based on strength. Ren probably won't be able to coordinate well with Qui-Gon anyway, so team 1 takes it. Now, this last line either refers to the fact that they are subservient to him, that he is more powerful or skilled that they are, or a combination of the two. Round 2. Round 2: Each side has to fight alongside the last person the opponent killed. Round 1: Maul just dances around Ren with a smug grin on his face until he's bored and turns him into charred sushi. Ren has no real combat feats to speak of, apart from the fights with Rey and Finn. Adalinerigg28. Maul isn't superior to Ahsoka while holding back, that's complete nonsense. So Maul was able to defeat one Jedi in 1v1 combat, still impressive however he was bested, again, in 1v1 combat by Obi-Wan. He did 3 simultaneously while drugged in TCW, taking out Kylo then 2, then 2, then 2 shouldn't be hard. Numbers count for something, of course, so maybe the Knights of Ren could give them a run for their money. Maul was a Dathomirian Zabrak and the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Round 1. See more ideas about star wars art, star wars fans, star wars universe. As Yoda reluctantly judges the match, Darth Maul and Kylo Ren draw sabers to the death in this parody VS battle I created using Anime Studio Pro 8. That being said Obi-Wan got separated due to Maul kicking him off a ledge or something, if I recall. All canon feats allowed. We don't know if Ren's paralysis ability would affect Maul, but if it does, and if Ren goes for that move (something we have no reason to believe he'd do), he'd have a chance to kill Maul. The machine components of Vader's suit add an extra element of fear, and his iconic mask is the epitome of menacing headgear. Straight up light sabers I'd give it to maul, but kylo ten has the ability to put someone in stasis, so if he abused that I don't really see what maul could do to counter that. 137 posts Member. Round 2: Even if Kylo killed Han right at the start of the battle, that means that its Kylo and Qui-gon vs Maul. But you can't use those "if's" to say that "IF Kylo was full strength and bloodlusted he would've stomped". Then beat the knight of Ren singlehanded even though they killed Jedi before. It's not defined in canon, but obviously force users have some sort of passive defense against each other's powers, or lightsabers would be irrelevant. Feeling let-down by his father, Han Solo, he was seduced to the Dark Side from the evil Supreme Leader Snoke. Darth Vader – 33 per cent (3422) The Emperor – 18 per cent (1897) Grand Admiral Thrawn – 6 per cent (636) Darth Maul – 6 per cent (632) Boba Fett – 6 per cent (631) General Grievous – 4 per cent (458) Greedo – 4 per cent (399) Moff Gideon – 4 per cent (381) Kylo Ren – 3 per cent (354) Grand Moff Tarkin – 3 per cent (330) Jan 31, 2017 - Explore Tony Gaulding's board "Kylo Ren" on Pinterest. Except the battlefield we're presented with would not allow for their numbers to matter much. During his time among the Jedi, he was considered one of the greatest duelists of his era. Ren obviously has issues killing his father, and it takes considerable effort for him to do so, so I doubt he'd be able to bring himself to do so before Maul kills his partner. I'd say about 7/10 for Maul, since he and Qui-gon are fairly evenly matched, though Maul is still the more skilled fighter. This means its Darth Maul and Han Solo Vs Kylo Ren and Qui-Gon-Jinn. As such, only the master could command the six elite warriors known as Ap'lek, Cardo, Kuruk, Trudgen, Ushar, and Vicrul. RP_Grump posted... Zack_Attackv1 posted... lol at this even being a question. We dont see the Knights of ren really do anything so its hard to judge but Dooku took on Anakin and Obi-wan and fought Yoda to a draw so i really dont see Maul and Dooku both losing. However, Maul has bounced back from worse. Share Share Tweet Email. A new theory from the latest Star Wars the Rise of Skywalker trailer says Kylo Ren is searching for the Wayfinder on Darth Vader's planet of Mustafar. They're on a walkway (not a bridge, mind you, but a walkway, which is generally only wide enough for one person) over a bottomless pit. Fight is to the death, on neutral ground, starting distance of 20 yards. Kylo Ren Vs Darth Vader Vs Darth Maul + Gameplay Skill Tree | Disney Infinity 3.0 Toy Box Brawls #9. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Maul and Dooku take this 10/10. Maul 10/10. He is currently the Commander of (and an important facet of leading) the First Order- a political and military organization which was established approximately thirty years after the Battle of Endor. Kylo: supreme leader of the First Order 27% . But the new leak presents a … He could've died in an extremely close fight. Best feat I recall from Maul is dragging a shuttle off a cliff while injured. With him out we have a rematch between Maul and Qui-Gon where Kylo replaced Obi-wan. R2) Kylo opens by freezing Han. It also helps that Dooku's form (II) specialises in lightsaber vs lightsaber fights. I mean, you can lose a fight and still be extremely close, that's how Star Wars works. Star Wars is, without question, one of the most successful entertainment franchises to have ever graced screens. Rebels era Darth Maul. [4] He is also the father of Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia Organa, grandfather of Kylo Ren, and secret husband of Padmé Amidala. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Savage Opress 4 Kylo Ren 5 DEATH BATTLE 6 Conclusion Star Wars vs. Star Wars! Sorry if this battle seems a bit off, its my first. The son of Mother Talzin, he was trained by Sidious as a Sith assassin and became an incredibly skilled duelist.