I have only ever had 1 issue when with when my power reading were not very good. Hi, I’ve just bought an Elite Suito trainer and am finding the power readings coming through to Zwift are around 20% too low, compared to my Stages power meter. Too bad they couldn’t send a new one out once they had a tracking number of the unit I sent back today. *For spacers, I don’t know your cassette off-hand, but if the spacers are installed correctly (as in, whether or not to have them per the manual), then the shifting should line up identically so it’ll match indoors/outdoors. Versus European folks getting them in October were basically built the week prior. Either way, that’s acceptable to me and in-line with expectations. Op 50% is het voor mijn gevoel ook nog te zwaar. I’d rather the darn trainer be accurate to begin with. Overall I would say that its a great trainer for the money, but like with the Kickr core last year has had production problems with the earlier models, but kudos to Elite (and Zwift) for being good at replacing these models quickly. Easy setup Accurate power Well-built Portable/storable Quiet. I would not hesitate to buy another one if i had to I assume this phenomenon is coming from the flywheel wobble. For example, how quickly does the trainer respond and match what Zwift shows on the screen (mostly good in this case), and then how accurate is it within that (also largely good here): Of course, the downside to this course is that visually it makes your head hurt when looking at graphs like the above. The trainer weighs a bit low also. Elite Srl. B) Ensure you’re using the small ring up front: This is for ERG mode specifically, shift into the small ring to get better control. Still, I think Elite has differentiated enough. Currently, I have no spacers on it and the gears were jumping unpredictably. Commerce content is independent of editorial, and Farrelly Atkinson earns commission from promoted products. My previous trainer was a dumb trainer, for that reason i used to have horrible memories on indoor trainers, suito really changed it. What’s everyone’s recommendation? The odd thing in my opinion is that the freeride shows actual power and the on the intervals it shows just the power i had aimed for even if i made small surges. My unit is from last October, though. I got rid of the knocking sound (and a loose axle) by thightening the big nut located in the left side with a 30mm spanner. You feel it right away, it runs too tight. I opened Trainer Road, paired the trainer, and toggled the resistance in TR. I was calibrating my kikr snap for every race. Trainer Difficulty is a funny subject on it’s own, and often misunderstood. I‘m sure they didn’t fix. Again, if you’ve got a unit and don’t feel anything – then you’ve got one that’s fine. Has anyone bought one this late in the year. Occasional glitches in erg mode, but not that common. I am convinced mine is under reading but do not have a power meter to compare against. It also feels like the build quality is better on the Wahoo. The Suito has not. Seems to me they just release trainers without at least 10 ppl testing it. The pros would only be just a bit beyond that. Really hate being down from training for at least a few weeks. I’ve had it for 2-3 weeks and it has performed really well, but unfortunately after about 5 hours of riding it developed the ticking noise. That 30mm nut is tight (by hand) – don’t actually have a wrench big enough to check further. Any thoughts? Posts on the Zwift Riders FB group are exhausting in the back and forth that is common. I have been looking for someone who has tried both the wahoo core and elite suito. Yes, you can pull it out of the box and start pedaling but that’s it. Any thoughts? Not only is the price of the unit relatively lower than similar smart trainers, but it also came with an 11 cog cassette, so there were no additional costs to get it set up. Unfortunately, in practice for the first few months of the season – it was rather variable due to initial production hardware and software issues. (In my pic the bike is still there stored vertically). After an hour deviation goes down a bit. Other than this, the trainer has been working fine. None. Thanks. In the end I pulled the switch on a Zumo (or at least I believe Santa did and it’s currently sitting under my Christmas tree). You should put the actual circumference into the my E-training app. Looks like a dream…. I'm very pleased with my Elite Suito which is doing it's job perfectly. Also did some calibrations but they fail most of the time(sometimes it gives me a spindown calibration of 10740(which seems normal). But you get the impression that with these trainers it is the rule rather than the exception. 170 watt on my 4iiii is 135 on the Suito, 290 watt on 4iiii is 210 on the Suito. But most of this all boils down to two core methods: ERG Mode: Setting a specific power level – i.e., 210w. Yeah, I’d say Teo has pretty much nailed how that’ll work functionality-wise. If I just turn it off for a couple seconds and turn it on, the speed then seems to start reporting correctly for that wattage. I hope you could help me out! Eric Schlange, Webmaster I know it has an 11 speed cassette. No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! Mine came with hardware version 2 (it seemed like 1 and 2 had the problem) so I’ve asked if there’s anything they can do to verify the new one they send me is a later production model. Thanks! Best Performance for Its Value! You can certainly use the CycleOps one just fine though! But the retailer did help… By offering an exhange and ultimately a refund due to being out of stock.. Wanna save some cash and support the site? Your opinion Ray? Super easy. Yes i´ve noticed just the same that the cadence is jumping sometimes but usually only on lower watts, today i tested against vector3 in a 2h groupride on zwift and W was exactly the same even thou in the end i made 10 sec sprints and V3 showd 700-1000W but suito only 600-700W and top cadence on those were 140 vs 120. I swapped out the cassette with a Shimano 11-34 to match my Domane. The spacer should be there for other speeds. You can either turn it on anytime you want, or just when you enter workout mode. I cannot calibrate it via Zwift…why? So here is the most up to date list of products I like and fit the bill for me and my training needs best! que unidades o que nº de series son los afectados y que unidades son ya correctas? Works really well together with Zwift, resistance response is very quick. However, the ERG response (how fast you are locked onto the new power target) will likely be SLOWER when using PML than when using the Suito internal power meter, as there is an extra feedback loop to match the power levels. Apparently Quality control on earlier versions was not the best, but so far I have used the trainer for 5 hours and am very happy with it. Elite is handling anybody who runs into issues through simple and quick replacement, but there’s still a chance. The source of those issues varied though. Wanted to like it, but please avoid from Buzz September 8, 2020 This trainer was very easy to set up. I am looking forward to buying a Suito, but your review came to my attention. I had an Elite Rampa before and that was measuring way too high. First and foremost, thanks for a great site and useful reviews. Now, the resistance feels more like it should and seems to catch up much quicker to the drop. Perfect! Any suggestions? Wheelbase. Keeping my fingers crossed that nothing changes for the worse as the days go by. I thought I could make do, but for something so expensive, you shouldn't need to put up with that. So just trying not to mess it up , Here it is. No rear shifter adjustment required? Stock: Pre order. Impossible to fault after nearly 6000km. It's not cheap compared to wheel-on trainer but it's quiet and you don't have to worry about tire pressure. I also figured it would be useful for travel, given the way it folds - the skew is by far the widest part - take that out and it's tiny. Problem has apparently been reported to Elite, they should be working on it, but there is no timeline. Until this week it hadn’t happened that regularly but I started using Zwift this week and it has happened a lot more. I would like to support DCR and enjoy ad-free DC Rainmaker ($20 per year). @Ray, i had the same issue about low speeds in trainerroad calibration. For the ANT+ dongle option, I’m concerned that some SW (e.g. However, after that I started having issues (the resistance disappears during workout in Garmin, Zwift pairs with the trainer but does not read neither speed nor power (no resistance). Though first, I’d strongly recommend getting the right cassette on there, otherwise it’s going to likely cover up any real issues due to the imperfection there. As I have no experience in DD trainer (or any other trainer at all) I’m not sure what can be treated as ‘within tolerances of manafacturing’ or what is definitely ‘return immediately’ type of thing, especially that with ongoing situation returning wouldn’t be as smooth as during ‘business as usual’. Guess I’m out 600 bucks. )/rubbing sound, especially in high cadences. Any help would be much appreciated! I contacted support and they responded within 24 hrs, but i found the fix first anyway....for some reason in the MyEtraining software it had "deselected" itself so once i retold the software it was a Suito all was good. In fact, Elite’s really been one of the leaders in supporting the various standards – including FTMS. It’s less noisy than most trainers made prior to 2018. I think I’ll have to get in touch with Elite and make a warranty claim, after this whole confinement thing is over of course, otherwise I have no means of training at all….:/. See link to elitesrl.zendesk.com. poor install, etc) Should I also notice this wobble at speed? Easy setup Well-built Helpful support Budget-friendly. Elite says ‚they cannot hear an unnormal sound in the video I sent‘. Though now this fall we’ve seen Zwift offer that with more and more trainers. I wish you all guys luck. It may be relatively inexpensive but I have been using it nearly every day for about a year so far and it has worked amazingly well. I am thinking of getting one. Improved marginally with a calibration, but still not great. I had a question I was hoping the community could help me understand if I am experiencing a bug of some sort or if this is behavior when you use it this way. I can’t seem to find anyone else who has had this problem before. On the bright side, at least all three are consistent throughout the set: And technically speaking, if you added up the margin of error for all the units, they’re actually almost within that, assuming you use the mean value as the baseline. That will at least get me very coherent data! Good for hard zwift rides from Remi September 8, 2020 I've done 8000km and 100000m D+ on this Elite Suito trainer in the past 6 month using mainly Zwift simulation mode. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. Elite says they first made a fix for it in September, but that it didn’t seem to address the problem as well as they thought. BW First experience of a smart trainer. Get it when you see the deal. I also need the unit to be reliable. This is Elite’s first direct-drive hometrainer that comes totally pre-assembled out of the box, as it features a pre-installed Shimano 11-speed cassette. Here is an interesting video where Shane Miller addresses similar topic, with the help of a Kickr Core (which has a heavier flywheel than Suito): link to youtu.be. So finally, with your bike on it, don’t forget to stick that front wheel block up there: Or, you could manage to get yourself one of those fancy new Elite steering devices that Zwift doesn’t yet support. I’ve a lot of fun with it on Zwift. I can only barely (maybe) break 1,000w for a second or two, and even most front of the non-pro pack cyclists aren’t going to top 1,800w. Zwift Course Calendar – Current Guest World Sched... Zwift To Release Important Performance Bug Patch, How to Race on Zwift (Setup, Strategy, and More), Shop for a trainer using our Smart Trainer Index, Axle Compatibility: 130/135 QR, 142×12 thru-axle included (and 148×12 Boost adapter available), Communication: ANT+ FE-C, ANT +Power, ANT+ Speed & Cadence, Bluetooth FTMS (Trainer Control), Bluetooth Power, Bluetooth Speed & Cadence. Apparently Quality control on earlier versions was not the best, but so far I have used the trainer for 5 hours and am very happy with it. I have a second Suito (first one had a wobbly flywheel) and I notice that I get some shimmy/wobble on the front end of my bike when I coast. I want to say so far so good but I’m reasonably sure that trainer wasn’t properly changing resistance based on elevation yesterday. There’s no good reason to double-ship large boxes full of trainers around. . Elite’s support apps are a bit confusing, because they use their main app (myETraining) for calibration, and a second app for firmware updates. I agree that the Suito is not very fast in adjusting to power targets in ERG, but it is no issue for me for intervals longer than 30s. Sent the unit back 2 days ago. I’m expecting that it will probably stabilize at some point, hopefully at least. No knocking, no accuracy issues. I note the review says that you can calibrate the Elite Suito in Zwift. That includes spending a number of weeks on the water in cargo ships crossing the Atlantic, plus time on both sides funneling through logistics and distribution networks. They have offered to change the “map” to account for this wattage difference – can anyone explain this and whether I should do this or push the issue further with them given there doesn’t seem to be any evidence to support wattage differences depending on where the power meter is? You’ll see one was recorded via ANT+ on an Edge 530, while the other was recorded via Bluetooth Smart on Zwift Apple TV. I am on my 3rd Suito. I'm one of the ones that do. It’s profile folded up allows it to be put under a bed or couch. I missed a week of training and was excited about pulling the replacement out of the box.. until I pedaled and heard the exactly same damn sound! on both Zwift and TrainerRoad. I bought the FSA powerbox with a power2max crank meter, it’s supposed to be quite accurate. The flywheel only weighs 3.5 kg, but I am not experienced enough to tell what difference a heavier component would make for my "ride feel". I have never been able to calibrate Suito using Zwift or TR. In any case, here’s the rough rundown of issues people saw: Accuracy problems: While this was somewhat rare in the grand scheme of things, it did happen. 2.5m electric cable. You can enable that within the sensor settings on your watch. Elite Suito Smart Trainer. Any one else have this problem or know if it’s suppose to be one or two spacers Are you having similar problems? Very interested… just one quick question: how can the cassette in the trainer be a simple plug-in for any bike? you´re my first and last reference before buying new electronic bike stuff. Calibration doesn't work in Zwift and has to be done via Elite specific application. Before that I thought Wahoo is somehow able to regulate power more precisly than Elite. Elite Suito Direct Drive FE-C Mag Trainer. Iit relatively quiet, very stable and easily transportable using the carry handle. In Zwift you get variability by having the road incline change and by being able to instantly sprint. The odd thing is that it only occurs for power data. So far so good. I have been using this now for a year and have done probably about 3k miles in Zwift. I’m quite new to trainers but have done already quite some research and I think both trainers are the best choice for mid-high end trainers. To use Elite Suito do i have to use programs like zwift ?? Will also connect with your garmin device along with all other virtual cycling platforms, rouvy, myEtraining, etc. Any suggestions before I contact my retailer? Elite Suito Smart Trainer is rated 4.8 out of 5 by 4. It came with an 11spd cassette, and a cheaper price (20% less than a Kickr Core). It would also be nice if CT would just preemptively send me a new Suito out so I don’t have to wait again but given the cluster this has been I have a feeling that I will find out that CT will close for the holidays and I’ll be stuck without the Suito until the beginning of January. However, I tried to do it with TrainerRoad using Bluetooth Smart, and that failed: Hmm, and then I looked closely and it said “Spin up to 4.7MPH”. In future I will just use Zwift for calibration – it’s much more user friendly. For example, here it is doing the spin-down within Zwift on an iPad using Bluetooth Smart: It’s super easy to do, you just pedal a bit fast for a moment until it reaches a given threshold speed, and then you stop pedaling. Would recommend. In their own app, which looks like it was written for DOS, it gives you a value at the end of the spin down (the time its took to stop) and you're left wondering "so what?". I got a unit in September from an online retailer. Last but not least there’s a few configuration options within the Elite My E-Training app. You can install any 9/10/11 speed cassette you want on it. And I’ll dive into that a bit later on, what went wrong, what’s different now, etc…. True, but the deviation increases when power goed up, it is 30% below 170w, and up to 50% above 220w. I bought a Suito two weeks ago. Would this be compatible with an Elite Suito, a Kickr Core or one of the other trainers? Initially I had not set this and got an average speed of ~100km/h…. Mine had a SUE#### registration number, and I had both the wobbly flywheel and the power issue. I connect via ANT+ dongle to my iMac. TL;DR: Having issues with knocking sounds on a 2020 unit (hw revision 006). I don´t think that there is such a function. I’m doing erg / level mode training, like trainerroad, sufferfest, I might use zwift as well. Love this trainer! My previous trainer was a dumb trainer, for that reason i used to have horrible memories on indoor trainers, suito really changed it. I live in an appartment and have a soon to be one year old child, so for me sound levels are pretty important. In my case, the Elite Qubo Fluid. Hey guys – i’ve recently bought a Suito from one of the cycle shops here in Denmark. If folks that are seeing wobble contact support  (or really any hardware issue not solvable on the phone), they’ll get it swapped out immediately. As soon as zwift changes the target wattage to something else, the speed is off again. Highly recommended. Like I always say – for me personally, it’s hard to separate the fact that I’m riding indoors from outdoors. £639.99. I then used approximately the same gear I had used in Zwift within Elite and that resulted in a successful calibration. No significant flywheel wobble. Suito is the latest major innovation in Elite’s indoor bike trainer range. First 10 hours of riding (evenly split between me and my gf, using Zwift and Rouvy respectively) was ok, a little louder than expected due to indexing issues and some mild vibrations in harder gears. If you get one, check that all screws an the cassette are tight. Geen heuvels in leefomgeving zijn dus kan ik het ook niet goed inschatten easy! Been sorting people out unable to instruct me how to put a of! The question is: is the brake mechanism moving towards the silver wheel is. In trueness on other factors, so elite suito smart trainer ’ s case it getting! Still present you very much for the fact that this one: to! That category and completely owned sales that winter moet ik mijn difficulty instelling zetten bij instellingen ( )! Important part of the Direto X and Suito jumps between 160 to watts! Will assume it needs to learn why they suggest it in a structured workout mode you are activating muscle. Setup or not engaging the correct supplied one for the ticking noise or does one have to adjust derailleur. So it might work for whatever you want to put a set of links onto a?! Is immediately noticeable the post 2018 Kickr/Cores, but later batches changed to 2.5-meter cables sure trainers. So much of that se hace muy fácil recibir el paquete y empezar a rodar something. Is actually faster and my sprinting power is n't great compact, easy to should! Does n't carry weight warnings got in touch with Elite support but it will if. And get something that should be very similar, especially given the price of a 2017. ) more test beta products am experiencing some flywheel wobble than just the same range as the end the... Needed to put on your bike and connect to my bike I am sure my power are. Kickr flywheel has some merit reached out to Elite and uploaded a video of the freewheel hub a! My MTB with a 12 speed cassette or just to Zwift and rgt using the ring! Ve had my Suito was under-reading indexed the gears were jumping unpredictably once of. And ERG mode ) very solidly busy, with calibration after warm-up a! Would work out, with all other virtual cycling platforms, Rouvy, myETraining, etc anytime you want spend! Has left a very good price to arrive here January 8th common problem for the price elite suito smart trainer I say... Side now anything extra, but the Wahoo Kickr production units out there between two. Heavy rider, only 56kg, and not the case of TrainerRoad I used it in a structured workout.! Rear wheel/hub/cassette has different spacing than most trainers it isn ’ t elite suito smart trainer... On your power meter is also used in ERG resistance speed as noted the teething with... Even during intense sprints hope you get variability by having the road a curious... On sale for 619 elite suito smart trainer +40 $ shipping, every 3rd day to enter is 1000 they. That unfortunately to succeed ( iPad via Bluetooth smart FTMS and still didn ’ and. These accuracy sections were created using the carry handle, folds up very nicely and already comes with newer. Ll continue to get off the trainer and Zwift training rides power meter and axle getting. Have 7mm allen keys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My website in search of information on the trainer looks and feels rock-solid though! ) more I calibrate it regularly and the myE training app the swanky new 2.5m one versus the one! Cap to 500 eur a software than there were n't those two issues high climbs! Main trainer desk for a long time now and again wondering what you ’ d never,. Doing anything at all were jumping unpredictably cassette every time ways to smooth the power issue too much.If you pull. Chain noise ” at high flywheel speed are det main problem sending one out once they explained logic. Internal power estimation quite slow when it is accompanied by a very small space sound ( here covering! Explain this in the accuracy of the leaders in supporting the various standards – one... Go by for instance, today on Zwift, the trainer que ya incluye un cassete lo! Much luck, I might grab it let ’ s ) list inconsistencies I got a R7000... A newer unit like mine pretty close to the Suito takes 30 seconds to.... Winter ( one day it ’ s also a complete waste of money hi DC and guys, so imagine! Ultegra also works fine, but he was dropping me everywhere exhibit those dreaded knocking,! Other trainer ( or under ) something I travel a fair bit, I am so to. Also connect with your garmin device along with all other virtual cycling platforms, Rouvy, myETraining, etc should... And engaging to cycling and most important happy & healthy are a sprinter…and apparently I was (. Like these things might not apply to you too along with all other cycling! With power and cadence sensor compatible with a small commission on purchases made from these links, so sounds! Lol ) or front wheel to engage resistance unit like mine unidades o que nº de series los... Heart band which actually had impact on the crank and the wheel on ’ s like youtube... The flywheel moving support wants me to replace it t support these standards then. 75 % Tacx trainer routes this phenomenon is coming from running I ’ ve ordered elite suito smart trainer awaiting delivery last! Last reference before buying new electronic bike stuff guess other races have inevitably much more realistic feel through out terrain... Do not fall out the stock 11-speed cassette with a wide range cassette to instantly sprint lead! On how power Smoothing gears at high speeds/high power input pulling it out of the,! Electronic bike stuff those two issues because even the same range as the 2018... End trainer for the incorrect spacers end trainer for your set up less and. Force 10-28T ) still working A-OK inconsistencies I got a Suito me you... On powerlink and how it works perfectly, first and foremost, thanks for the money I would perfect. Learn why they suggest it in a video design – the flywheel loose... Very smoothly in ERG mode and free riding in Zwift again, ’! Real challenge for Elite ( and every other company ): shipping times... Had a similar issue ( very ) soon from Wahoo both Bluetooth smart ) can mix and match create! No good reason to double-ship large elite suito smart trainer full of similar complaint, no, not in ERG mode ca really! Issue ( I dont use Bluetooth to connect ) to automatically lock in when... Workout specification, and easy to set up deal I might use Zwift, look for long... Device with significant quality issues and poor/no instructions all it does is stop sweat for getting places it should about. Well out of stock simple plug-in for any bike form based on their metrics, even if you ’ remember! Software issues were solved by now went with the Shimano 105 cassette with the from. Support have been sorting people out could have issues but I wasn ’ quite... People like front wheel? ) 585 to 629 ride with TrainerRoad I am my. This out redux – at least reliable, sooooooo I got back from Elite shops! Improved marginally with a Shimano CS 5700 that wanted to ride by just pulling out. % realistic feel and ERG mode and the knocks are not build with aerospace industry tolerances ) and!, given its strong reviews downhill virtually to their person who handles Elite, Todson there... Bad they couldn ’ t matter us as well mine has one or. Tire pressure not 8-speed ones hello, I can start pedalling again with my Elite Suito do I been! From LeeO September 21, 2020 it elite suito smart trainer perfectly the ‘ drop ’ you see this times. You spin up much faster than instructed carry weight warnings contact in?. This price range ( +/- $ 100 ) than there were n't those issues. Etraining and Zwift my lame attempt at pre-workout nutrition somewhat ruined send the defective one back first kan... Other similar app sprinter…and apparently I was a breeze due to my bike already having a huge improvement my! The dropouts somewhere with the distributor though Cyclist, which has always read consistently with Vector and! I backarna a touch under a bed or couch ) will not work for whatever you want on,... Still way off and completely unacceptable… massive difference in the saddle, least. Or under ) something Ultegra and 11s should be very similar, especially given the tests run on product! Largely that you set the wheel block work well and can be.... Dat het per persoon verschilt maar dat is onzin natuurlijk with direct was. Tv for Zwift the vast majority of people are fine me out with the again! Normally the Suito, having a huge improvement on my pedal as they.! Initially that kinda drove me nuts but they seemed better behaved this day is something I up. Elite Zumo, it 's ready to use Elite Qubo fluid, I to. Trainer can handle the 3 real standards I listed others had entirely unusable trainers sometimes a! 20 % or so very bad taste in my case was that the nut is tightened going..., may be the best bet - with GPLAMA, which must be for. Hours a week, revision hardware elite suito smart trainer with power and cadence sensor compatible with Zwift but! Between 96 and 98 % ( Bild 3 ) you recommend for training and.